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Do You Deserve To Have An Opinion?

07/14/08

Permalink 11:23:46 am, by Andy Borgmann Email , 426 words
Categories: Life

Do You Deserve To Have An Opinion?

Logic? - Do You Deserve to Have An OpinionWe have been on the radio for three years now. I have decided that unlike men, all opinions are not created equal which means not everyone deserves to have an opinion. For now on, I am going to require a simple, but apparently difficult, logic test for all people before they share an opinion.

Ready...

True or false:
      If A implies B.
      Then B implies A.

Simple enough right? Think you know the answer? Read on...

The inspiration behind this post is an email we received last night from Lucida on our topic "Man's Best Friend Has Become Man's God". She writes: "From a factual standpoint: It has been well studied and documented that animal cruelty is associated with crimes against human beings." The implication. Those that are cruel to animals are just destined to become murders.

Now the study she is referring to is true. It has been proven that those who have committed serious crimes had shown a propensity towards animal cruelty before acting out on humans. But does the inverse ring true as well?1

Another classic statement I hear is that studies have shown that serial rapists were also pornography users.

Well duh! Of course those who are rapists are going to have an abnormal view of sexuality. But does the inverse run true? Are those who struggle with porn one image away from becoming a rapist?

When I was in high school, I took an Introduction to Philosophy class at Huntington University. As I later realized, it was less a class on classic philosophy and more a class on logic. The above test was essentially day one of the class.

Let's take the murders and rapists and alphabet letters2 out of the equation and put it in more simple terms.

If it is raining the streets are wet. The streets are wet, therefore it must be raining. Wait a minute, something isn't right about that statement.

And now we are back to my test. Why doesn't that sound right? Because logic that assumes since a implies b, therefore b implies a is false. The streets could be wet because of a fire hydrant or because a dam break or thousands of other reasons.

If you answered true to the test above, you would be wrong, and no longer deserve to have an opinion as there is something fundamentally wrong at the core of your logic.

If you have an opinion, be sure to leave it in the comment box below.3

11 comments

Comment from: Christopher Spurgeon [Visitor] Email · http://www.thejokerempire.com
Now for us non-intelectuals (Accounting Majors) this is not fair. Because if you substitute numbers for either letter the above is true. So their are some faults to it (my opinion). But other than that I agree. Some people also use stats, surveys, and studies to skew the views of others.
Almost like using a leading indicator to demonstrate what is happening in the economy presently. HA thats for you non-mathematical (actually it economics but oh well) types.
PermalinkPermalink 07/14/08 @ 12:53
Comment from: Andy Borgmann [Member] Email · http://www.2timothy42.org
Because if you substitute numbers for either letter the above is true.
Touché. I'll give you non-intellectuals a pass when we are in a heated discussion about numbers.

Some people also use stats, surveys, and studies to skew the views of others.
As Benjamin Disraeli said, and good ole Mark Twain popularized, "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics."
PermalinkPermalink 07/14/08 @ 13:03
Comment from: Erik [Visitor] Email · http://www.allenhuntshowsucks.com
What does this mean:
if you substitute numbers for either letter the above is true

??
PermalinkPermalink 07/15/08 @ 20:57
Comment from: Andy Borgmann [Member] Email · http://www.2timothy42.org
What does this mean:
I think it means if you apply math problems, then the statement is always true.

For example:

If 2 + 4 Equals 3 + 3
Then 3 + 3 Equals 2 + 4

Or....

If 3 / 4 Equals 6 / 8
Then 6 / 8 Equals 3 /4

There are probably examples where numbers would falsify the statement, but I am too lazy to figure it out.
PermalinkPermalink 07/15/08 @ 21:05
Comment from: Erik [Visitor] Email · http://www.allenhuntshowsuck.com
That's different though. One is a statement of equality (a = b) and the other has the form if a then b, which doesn't imply equality, only that the set which is called a always contains the set called b. Maybe the dude can clarify.
PermalinkPermalink 07/16/08 @ 08:56
Comment from: Sarah Elwer [Visitor] Email · http://sarahelwer.blogspot.com
You lost the History/Youth Ministry major with all the math, but I'm listening to the show at work, and it's a good time!
PermalinkPermalink 07/16/08 @ 12:08
Comment from: Christopher Spurgeon [Visitor] Email · http://www.thejokerempire.com
As Benjamin Disraeli said, and good ole Mark Twain popularized, "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics."

I LIKE THAT ONE!
PermalinkPermalink 07/16/08 @ 12:48
Comment from: Erik [Visitor] Email · http://www.allenhuntshowsucks.com
Thanks for that non-answer.
PermalinkPermalink 07/16/08 @ 19:07
Comment from: Andy Borgmann [Member] Email · http://www.2timothy42.org
Thanks for that non-answer.
Be nice Erik. This is my blog and people don't hate you yet ;)

I think we all agree that for philosophical/moral/etc that if you believe "a implies b - then b implies a" you are a moron.
PermalinkPermalink 07/16/08 @ 19:13
Comment from: Erik [Visitor] Email · http://www.allenhuntshowsucks.com
My friend says honesty is a higher form of spirituality thank kindness.

PermalinkPermalink 07/16/08 @ 20:06
Comment from: Andy Borgmann [Member] Email · http://www.2timothy42.org
My friend says honesty is a higher form of spirituality thank kindness.
You know I agree with that.
PermalinkPermalink 07/16/08 @ 21:54

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